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The Story of the Tassibee Group
Asian Womens Social, Education & Training Group
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(The following information & accounts are available in a paperback book, free of charge)
Contents
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Introduction
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Significant events in the history of the Tassibee Group
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Factors affecting womens mental health as identified by Mirpuri Punjabi speaking
Asian women from Rotherham
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The story of the Tassibee Group - an account by some group members
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The story of the Tassibee Group - an account by some Tassibee Group - the co-ordinators
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The story of the Tassibee Group - Jamilias story
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The story of the Tassibee Group - Sardars story
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The story of the Tassibee Group - comments from the steering group
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(This book was compiled in 1999)
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Introduction
The Tassibee Group is a group of mainly Mirpuri Punjabi speaking Asian women of all ages, from all
over Rotherham. Many of the women are isolated and experience considerable difficulty in using
public services, particularly health, social care and education services. Many of the older women in
the group have never received any formal education and, because Mirpuri Punjabi does not have a
written form, are not literate in any language.
For the last 6 years the group has met weekly as a support/information group, prayer group and
luncheon club.
Over the last 2 years the group has expanded its activities and has worked in partnership with a
number of local statutory and voluntary organisations:-
- Working with the GROW Project (Giving Real Opportunities to Women), the group has organised
successful training courses in Personal Development, Confidence Building and Assertiveness and
Confidence on Committees for group members
- The group has organised consultation & information sessions about services for Asian women for
Rotherham Health Authority & Rotherham Social Services
- The group has made links with Umeed, a support group for Asian women with cancer in Bradford
Most of this has been achieved through voluntary work on behalf of the small number of group
members.
For the last 2 years the Tassibee Group has had a steering group which is composed of Tassibee
Group members elected by the whole group and co-opted workers from local voluntary and statutory
organisations, who are committed to the aims of the group and work in a support/advisory capacity.
As most steering group members are Mirpuri Punjabi speakers, the business is conducted in this
language as much as possible. Professional interpretation services are provided for members who
use other languages.
In the last 12 months the Tassibee Group has obtained its own office and training base at Greencroft
Resource Centre in Broom Valley and has received funding for a Development Worker from
Rotherham Borough Council. The Development Worker started work in September 1999 and the
Tassibee Asian Womens Education & Training Project is now developing a comprehensive training
and development programme for Mirpuri Punjabi Speaking Asian women in Rotherham.
The steering group decided that, at this point in the history of the Tassibee Group, it would be useful
to record the development of the group over the last 6 years. We wanted to give encouragement to
other groups of Asian women that, although sometimes it is very difficult, it is worth persevering as
the solutions and resources are out there. We think that the Tassibee model is successful and we
wanted to share it with Asian women, professional workers and organisations to show how it is
possible to work together for the benefit of some of the most socially excluded women in Britain.
October 1999
Significant Events in Tassibee Group History
| Year |
Activity |
Support & Funding |
| 1992
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Discussion with local women
Research into needs of local older
Asian women. |
None
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| 1993 |
Tassibee Group met for 4 weeks in a private
house. Started with 5 women, 16 attended
by week 4. |
£500 Healthy Eating
Grant from Health
Promotion Department. |
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Organised Eid party at Eastwood Youth &
Community Centre attended by 60 women. |
Support from Health
Promotion Officer for
Ethnic Minorities. |
| 1994 |
Combined with Asian Womens Social
Activity Group. Met weekly Thursdays from
10 am 12 pm at Cranworth Clinic. Khalida
paid £10 per session. Used it to provide
transport for women attending the group. |
Social Services funded
food, crèche worker, co-ordinator and sessional
worker. Priority Health
Trust provided venue. |
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Khalida became a member of Health /
Social Services Ethnic Minorities
Consultation Panel. |
Support provided by
Social Services Ethnic
Link Worker. |
| 1995 |
Khalida appointed as Co-ordinator of Asian
Womens Social Activity Group. |
Social Services provided
£50 per week for running
costs: food, crèche,
co-ordinator costs. |
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Tassibee Group became part of Health
Authority consultation process with ethnic
minority groups (4Cs Project). |
4Cs Project paid £25
co-ordinator costs for
monthly session. Support
provided by Social
Services Mental Health
Commissioning Manager. |
Nov 27/29 |
Women from the Tassibee Group took part
in From Debate to Action a conference
for Mirpuri Punjabi speaking women,
looking at the mental health needs of Asian
women in Rotherham. |
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| 1996 |
Khalida developed and ran Stress
Management training for Mirpuri Punjabi
speaking Asian women. |
Funded by Social
Services. |
| 1997 |
Khalida made contact with Joint
Commissioning Development Worker for
Service Users and Carers. |
Interpretation and
translation funded by
Social Services. |
| June |
First meeting of Tassibee Development
Group. |
£2,500 Health for All
Project Grant. |
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Tassibee and GROW Project ran
Confidence Building training and Assertive
training. |
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| 1998
Feb |
Tassibee Steering Group meets. |
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| Mar |
Application to local authority for 3 years
funding for Development Worker. |
£1,000 Transport and
Health Grant. |
| May |
Tassibee Group ran information day for
Asian women for Social Services. |
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| July |
Women from Tassibee Group visited
Umeed, a self-help group for Asian women
in Bradford. |
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Confidence on Committee Training for
women interested in being Tassibee
Steering Group members. |
Funded and provided by
GROW Project. |
| Sept |
Tassibee Group organized stall at the
Rotherham Show. |
Raised £230 for Muslim
Aid for Bangladesh flood
victims. |
| Oct |
Tassibee Group obtained office and training
space at Greencroft Resource Centre from
the Housing Department. |
Housing Department
provided office and training
space. |
| 1999
Jan |
Tassibee Eid party and official launch of
Tassibee office. |
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Funding for Development Worker post for 1
year approved by local authority. |
£25,000 from Comm.unity
Regeneration. |
| Apr |
Tassibee Group decided to employ
Development Worker itself. |
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| July |
Quranic Arabic and Urdu classes started.
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£3,000 Key Fund.
£5,000 cedr |
| Aug |
Recruitment and selection process for
Development Worker held. |
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| .Sept |
Khalida started work as Tassibee
Development Worker. |
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Factors affecting womens mental health identified by Mirpuri
Punjabi speaking Asian women from Rotherham
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This report, of the From Debate to Action Conference held in Rotherham in November 1995,
identifies many of the difficulties faced by women in the Tassibee Group. Women from the group
took part in the conference; for many this was the first time that they had spoken about these issues
in public.
What factors contribute to a mental health problem?
1 Drug and alcohol use and misuse; in the sense that this would have a direct effect upon a persons
mental wellbeing
2 Marital problems such as living with in-laws
3 Problems relating to children, in particular not having children and the effect this has in a society
where children are very important as future carers of their parents
4 Some aspects of arranged marriages; and forced marriages
5 Racism. This was a very commonly held view and women thought it manifested itself in
employment prospects, where Asian people could not get jobs even if they had degrees
6 Cultural differences which are not properly understood by white workers
7 Unemployment leading to few job prospects so that women are stuck at home
8 Inter-generational conflict between the elders of the community and first generation British Asians,
who to a degree experience the disparity of two very different cultures
9 Socio-economic problems such as financial hardship and poor housing
10 Isolation felt by women as a result of many not understanding English and feeling that there is no-one
to help them and that they are stuck at home on their own all the time
11 Physical problems, such as physical illness and disabilities
12 Language problems that are made worse by lack of interpreters
13 Lack of understanding of Asian people by professionals
14 Transitional life stages; for example getting older and feeling a loss of respect as a consequence
of not being taken seriously and different attitudes to older people in the English culture
15 Being a carer of someone with health and/or mental health problems
16 Difficulties in education, and in particular pressure from parents to do well
17 Lack of support or help for women generally
18 Death in the family and having to cope with the grieving process with little or no support
19 Low self esteem
20 Immigration problems due to a lack of help or information
21 A general lack of information about where to find things out or go for help
22 A lack of information and knowledge of benefits and welfare rights
23 Existing mental health problems are perpetuated by feelings of inadequacy and being perceived
as inadequate by other people. Women felt that there was the stigma of being labelled and losing
self respect and respect from the community, once you were diagnosed as having mental problems
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What needs do Asian women have that affect their mental health?
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What healthcare and support services do Asian women lack in Rotherham?
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1 Education on issues such as what post-natal depression is
2 Professionals need to change their attitude towards Asian women. They need to take them
seriously and handle their problems more sensitively
3 We dont know who to complain to about the attitudes and behaviour of professionals
4 Asian women should be consulted and involved before services for them are set up. It is not good
enough to say that doctors are the experts on Asian womens health needs
5 Counselling is aimed at white people and from a white perspective. We need counselling from a
black perspective, which takes account of our culture and religion
6 Support groups for Asian women in the community need funding
7 Asian women want their needs to be met as part of mainstream services, rather than services
marginalised as Black projects
8 Asian women do not get support in the evening because they cannot or will not use babysitters
9 Professionals should not use so called community leaders instead of coming to consult
Asian
women at grassroots level
10 Asian women are more than just about sewing classes, but due to unemployment and lack of
education they feel their only option is the sewing machine. We would like the opportunity to fulfil
our
potential and learn a variety of skills
11 There is a lack of courses aimed at Asian women, for example to try to return women to the
workforce
12 We need qualified Asian mental health workers
13 We need Asian health and social workers in surgeries, hospitals, clinics and community centres
14 White workers and agencies need training on cultural and religious awareness, and anti-discriminatory
practice
15 Asian women need training on mental health
16 Asian women need more information about services available, in a meaningful form. Even
when
literature is translated, it is often written in a manner which Asian women do not understand. Written
information is often a waste of time because many people, for whom the literature is aimed, are not
literature
17 There is a need for qualified Asian women across the board, working in all fields but particularly
in
a counselling and conciliation service.
18 There is a need for proper advice and immigration services on immigration and visa issues
19 Although there is a Patients Charter at the hospital, Asian women do not know their rights
within
it.
20 We have difficulty at hospitals even when the doctors are bi-lingual, because they do not speak
Mirpuri and because they are not sensitive to our problems. It is better to place your trust in Allah
than to rely on any service providers
The story of the Tassibee Group
An account by some group members
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How long have you been coming to the Tassibee Group?
The group is now in its 6th year. Munir & Naseem have been coming since the beginning. Maryam
has come for three years
How did you find out about the Tassibee Group?
"Khalida came back from Abu Dhabi and said to me and my husband Theres a lot happening
for
younger women in Rotherham but nothing for older women. Theres nowhere for them to go. We need
to do something about it.
"Khalida talked to me about setting up a prayer group"
"Khalida told me I should come. She said I should come and see what happens"
What did you think when you first heard about it?
" didnt know what Tassibee was or how it was performed. I only knew that Tassibee was the
name
of a prayer but I didnt know how to do it or anyone else who knew."
"I was really happy to support a prayer group."
"I felt there was a need for a prayer group and a place where we could all meet"
"There was a lot of opposition to the Tassibee Group in the community. People said there was no
need for women to pray outside the home. They said that women would only go to the group so that
they could gossip and talk about other women."
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What made it OK for you to go?
"To start with my husband wouldnt agree for me to go; he said Youre too ill and
its too cold. My
husband gives me a lot of respect but sometimes he is bad tempered and wont listen. It was
important to me to have his consent to be able to go so Khalida talked to him about his
responsibilities as a Muslim to convince him that I should go. In the end he agreed providing Khalida
picked me up and brought me home (I was ill at the time). Khalida took me there every week for two
years."
"Khalidas support helped me to be involved."
"I was interested in Islam and I was lucky because Khalida is my relative so I knew what was going
on. Having all the information made it easier to get involved."
"I wanted to find out how to do this prayer. Learning more is important as a Muslim."
What was it like the first time you went?
"The first session was just to build interest. It was in someones house, it was very cold
and snowing
outside. It was during Ramadan and we were cold, tired and fasting. The room was big and there was
no heating. At the second session the people in the house were still asleep and wouldnt open the
door, but it was the only room we had to meet in."
"At the first session there were 5 women but by the 4th session there were 16 women."
"I didnt start going until it was at Cranworth Clinic. I didnt realise how many women
I knew went
already. I liked it better because I knew people."
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What was good about what had happened?
"About 15 years before some women had approached me and said We are starting a group and
we
want you to attend sessions. At the time I was working at home on my sewing machine so I didnt
have time. They even offered to pay me to come to the Centre but I said I dont want money
and Im
happy with my skills.
"The Tassibee Group was different. It is important to me and I get a lot out of it. Id been
on Haj and
someone mentioned that they were going to perform the Tassibee prayers but I didnt understand
or
know what to do so I couldnt join in. I prayed that I would have an opportunity to learn and the
Tassibee Group was the answer to my prayers."
"We had enough interest to carry on."
"We discovered that we could find out things eg things about health like diabetes, arthritis and
dental
care and how to brush our teeth properly."
"We had an opportunity to socialise and to learn about religion in a positive way. We had an
opportunity to learn about other things such as our rights as Muslim women."
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What were the problems with what had happened?
"The room was a problem. Its not OK to meet in peoples houses, I felt embarrassed,
like an
intruder. The family was very welcoming and wouldnt accept any money for rent but youre
not
independent if you meet in someones house; its like they are doing you a favour. Its
not private and
you cant do what you want (like turn the heating up). It was embarrassing going to someone elses
house to pray."
"The women were very dependent and made a lot of demands on Khalida for things like transport and
childcare."
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What happened next?
"We moved to Eastwood Youth Centre for a couple of weeks. We had an Eid party and over 60
women came. But the room wasnt private and people came in and out all the time so it wasnt
safe
to pray. Only a few women came to the prayer group."
"On the 3rd week we moved to Cranworth Clinic. For the first year we had to meet on Thursday
mornings because the room was booked on Fridays, but then they changed the Baby Clinic so we
could meet on Fridays. To start with we used to meet at 10.OOam but as the group developed we
made the time later so that women had more time."
"At Cranworth we merged with the Luncheon Club so we were able to have lunch. Up to then we had
only tea and biscuits; we used to take it in turns to bring them."
"For the first 2 years Khalida still picked up the women. In the end I was too anxious to get to
the
group to wait for Khalida so if I was well, I used to walk. Now if Im well I walk and if Im
ill I get a
taxi."
"For the first 3 years different professionals used to come each week and give a talk. We dont
do
that now."
"In the 2nd year we set the rules:
- respect each other
- dont put people down
- use the time to talk about the group and what we want to do, not other peoples problems
"lts important not to waste time so that no-one gets bored. Now at the group there is not
a lot of
time for chatting."
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What have you learned about Islam and about prayer by coming to the Tassibee Group?
"lve been coming for 2 years now. I didnt know what Tassibee was and I didnt
understand my
religion. Now Im learning Arabic so that I can read the Koran."
"Now I can do the prayers on my own at home and I can carry out my responsibilities as a Muslim
properly. I feel good in myself and I look forward to Fridays so I can learn more."
"lm often ill but coming to the Tassibee Group helps me with stress and depression, you learn
from
others."
"The Tassibee Group has allowed us to learn and develop our self-confidence and that what we are
doing is right."
"Translation of the Koran so that we can understand it has been very important."
"My life has changed. Its more organised and I have taken more control."
"More women read prayers now we are more confident."
"My brain cells have woken up and I want to learn more. In all my life I never thought about the
things
I do now."
"Religion has helped us and opened doors."
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What else have you learned by coming to the Tassibee Group?
"We need to find out what we needed and then bring in the right people. Khalida did this for us."
"We wanted to learn spoken English so that we could speak out for our rights."
"Through the Tassibee Group we are now learning English, Urdu and Arabic. Some group members
are now being paid for what we do."
"We feel proud of ourselves we know things now."
"I have learned that I have skills but also that I have responsibilities if I use these skills."
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What advice would you give to other women who want to start a group like the Tassibee
Group?
"Older women need to work together to learn their rights as Muslim women, and about their identity
and who they are. Then they can teach their children and other people."
"lt is important to have a facilitator who can communicate at different levels with different women."
"You must work together, listen and be patient with each other."
"You need someone who will take on a leadership role and others will help."
"To start with, picking people up from home is important until you have built up their interest."
"lts not just talking, its about having your needs met that will help you."
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The story of the Tassibee Group the co--ordinators
account
Why I set up the Tassibee Group?
I grew up in Rotherham but, after I got married, I lived with my husbands extended family in
Pakistan. This helped me to understand the role of in-laws in the extended family and how to work
with them in a positive way. Then we moved to Abu Dhabi, where I did group work with Muslim
women, which had not been done there before. Through this I learned that language was not the
most important issue (I was a Pakistani woman in an Arabic speaking country and I couldnt speak
Arabic to start with). The most important thing is raising womens self confidence and self esteem.
When I came back to Rotherham I went to college for further education even though I had four young
children. This was a time when even young Asian women didnt go to college, let along women with
children. I got some support from my family but it was really hard. Before I learned to drive I had
to
go everywhere on the bus. But although it was a struggle, it showed me that as an Asian
woman, with a family and children, you could still do it.
There was a need for a group for Mirpuri Punjabi speaking women in Rotherham because:
- women need to learn about religion in a positive way
- older women were missing out because there was nowhere to socialise
- women didnt know their rights as Muslim women
- uneducated, non-literate women lacked self esteem and needed to find their identity as Muslim
women
On my own initiative I did some research and asked women what they needed.
The Luncheon Group had already been in existence for 2 months. It was run by Social Services and
employed 3 workers. The culture was wrong, there was no respect for the workers. The attitude was
they are getting paid let them do all the work - treating them like servants. Hardly any women
went there and eventually we amalgamated with them.
iIgot £500 funding to do work on Healthy Eating with Asian women. I got paid £20 a week but
I gave
£10 to the facilitator who would come to lead the prayers and used the rest to pay for petrol to
pick
up all the women and for phone calls.
I used to have to make notes of what the women said in the discussions and also tape the
discussions and then translate the tapes into English. I was really exploited but I was naive in those
days.
The Tassibee Group applied to be part of the 4Cs Project but we were turned down. I complained
to
the Department of Health who were funding the project and after that we were included. This gave me
confidence to challenge authority when they do things that arent right.
Within the Asian community there was a lot of opposition to the Tassibee Group:
- there was no need for women to pray outside the home
- women only go to the Tassibee Group to gossip and talk about other women.
During the first 2 years I put a lot of effort into making links with women in the community:
- publicising the group
- encouraging women to come to see what happens
- offering transport
- word of mouth/home visiting
- visiting open days for Asian women eg Eid parties, information days
Developing understanding about Islam
I am not a religious leader, just an ordinary woman from the community whose religion and culture is
important in her life. I have always tried to bring other women, who knew more about religion than
me, into the group. It has been a learning process for me as well.
For the first 4 weeks we were able to pay a facilitator to lead the prayers. She was a religious
woman, well known in the Community who taught at the Mosque.
Then the money ran out so for 1 year at Cranworth we had to take turns to read the prayers. This
was unsatisfactory as often we didnt do it right which was frustrating and didnt set a good
example
for the women.
I met Sardar at a Crime Prevention Open Day. She had facilitated prayers in Pakistan but I didnt
realise how good she was. I offered to collect her to bring her to the group but she came anyway. No
one in the group thought that an old woman could read prayers and they were amazed.
Prayer teaches the importance of valuing your time, and the importance of commitment and having
structure in your life. It is an important way for women to:
- learn about and understand their religion
- learn to use prayer as a vehicle for learning about other things
- develop confidence, a sense of self-worth and to understand that as Muslim women they have
rights
ln Islam, once you have fulfilled your religious duties, you are encouraged to do other things in your
life, providing you do them in a way that is respectful to others. Women in the Tassibee Group didnt
know how they could put this into action.
The idea of fund raising for good causes was alien to women in the group. At the beginning they
would not even donate 50p for tea and coffee. Now they regularly fund raise and organise it
themselves. This is a result of what they have learned by coming to the Tassibee Group, and being
involved in fundraising activities like having a stall at the Rotherham Show.
lt has been very important to translate prayers into Urdu and discuss what they mean with the
women. We have made audio-tapes with money raised by the women in the group so that women
can use the tapes to help them understand the meaning of the prayers that they say at home five
times each day.
Providing training for Tassibee Group members
The local college offered courses for women from ethnic minorities but they werent suitable for
Tassibee women because they were geared at too high a level and were not in the subjects that
women wanted. We needed to find a training provider who was prepared to work in partnership with
the Tassibee Group to develop appropriate training.
We found the GROW Project (Giving Real Opportunities to Women) through the Tassibee
Development Group, which eventually became part of the steering group. Before the Development
Group was set up I had no idea of the resources that were available in Rotherham. The Development
Group was like a network for the Tassibee Group, which gave us support and information. Through
the Development Group we found out that there were ways of getting what we needed.
With the GROW Project we developed and ran a series of courses, which were all accredited
through the Open College Network. All the courses were bi-lingual, in Mirpuri Punjabi and English
and were geared to the needs of women who could not read or write in any language.
The first course was a Personal Development course. 25 women came to the introductory session
and 15 completed the course. At the first session, when we asked the women to draw with pens on
flip-chart paper, we realised that some women had never used a pen before and didnt know how to
hold it. The women insisted on having homework, so we made sheets so they could practise writing
letters and numbers, even though the course we had planned didnt focus on developing these skills.
The next stage, attended by 12 women, was Assertiveness and Confidence Building. This was
followed by Developing your Skills, which was held at Northern College. We had to liaise with
Northern College to provide transport and halal food in the cafeteria.
Then we ran Confidence on Committees training for women who wanted to be on the steering group.
We got funding for this and used an external trainer, who is
now a member of the steering group.
I have also run Active for Life taster sessions, covering topics like:
- healthier eating
- exercise
- healthier lifestyles
- how to deal with stress
I dont think that this has been done with Asian women in Rotherham before.
At the launch of the Tassibee office and training space, women who had been on the courses shared
their experiences in public. They said that:
- they were so proud that they had gone to college
- they had insisted on having homework, which they worked on at home at the time that their grand
children did their homework
- they now knew their personal information and could write their name, address, telephone number
and the date
- they knew their numbers and the alphabet
- they were proud of their course folders and that they had used new techniques to learn, such as
group discussions, role play and drawing.
When the training courses started, other women in the community dismissed Tassibee womens
attempts to access education and said Youre too old to learn. To start with the women
were too
embarrassed to take their folders home but as they got more confident that all changed. Now they
have respect in the community because they have gained certificates.
Now Tassibee women ask what other training is available and make suggestions for future courses.
Their daughters, daughters-in-law and grand daughters come to me now to find out how they can get
involved with the Tassibee Group and what is available for them.
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Problems & difficulties as the co-ordinator of the Tassibee
Group
I did this work in a voluntary capacity for over 5 years. There wasnt much support from other
workers
because everyone was busy with their own projects. Even other black workers didnt really have
the
time to give the Tassibee Group much support or support me as the Co-ordinator.
*As a voluntary worker people take you less seriously than if you are paid.
*lf the group is not backed by a statutory organisation, it does not have the power and influence to
get involved in the networks.
*The Tassibee Group doesnt fit in the boxes of the system because it works with women of all ages,
so no voluntary organisation could support us either.
*Although there were a lot of women involved in the group, they didnt have the skills, knowledge
or
language to help me much.
*Groups like Tassibee are very vulnerable to exploitation by other
organisations who will use the group for their own ends.
*As a voluntary co-ordinator, with no support, funding or guidelines, I had to do everything for the
group from washing-up to organising meetings with professionals to try to obtain funding.
*The women had very high expectations of what I should provide; they couldnt believe that, as
an
Asian woman, I was doing this on a voluntary basis.
*To start with, the women felt that by coming to the group they were doing me a favour and some
expected me to do favours for them in return.
*I have spent a lot of my own time and my own money getting the Tassibee Group to the stage
where we could apply for funding and have a paid worker. I could never have done this without the
support and help of my husband and my children.
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The story of the Tassibee Group Jamilas
story
Ive been coming regularly to the Tassibee Group for 4 years now. Manzoor told me about it and
I
went to see what it was like. Before I went to the Tassibee Group I used to read Namaz at home but
I didnt know what the Tassibee prayer was and I didnt know how to perform it.
At first I felt shy and embarrassed at the Tassibee Group, but once Sardar started reading the
prayers it was easy to follow, because she spoke loudly and slowly. I started feeling really good by
the end of the session and I thought I should have been here a long time ago.
Ive learned a lot of things by coming to the Tassibee Group. Ive learned how to sit in a
group and
listen to other people. Before I used to say what I wanted to say whenever I wanted but now I know
there are other ways of communicating in a group. You need to wait for your turn and follow the
rules; listen, dont gossip, give other women space and respect. Ive learned how to behave
in a
setting outside of my home; now I know what to say, when to say it and how to say it.
You learn a lot from other people; if you stay at home you feel very isolated. I cant wait for
Friday to
come so I can go to the Tassibee Group. It gives me a good feeling in my heart to learn things I
didnt know about my religion. Im
building up to reading a poem from the Quran in the group but I havent done it yet. Now I can
perform the Tassibee prayer on my own at home, but I enjoy it in the group. I dont feel shy or
embarrassed now.
I went to the first Tassibee course - Confidence Building. I was very embarrassed and I felt too old.
I
thought Id just go to the first session to see what was involved but I never thought Id
finish it. It was
after the first
few sessions that I realised there is no age limit on education. Now I have learned to sit and work
in
a group, which I couldnt have imagined before and Ive learned to talk to people in new ways.
Now I
can say and spell my name and full address.
Before I went on the courses I did nothing, even though Ive lived in England for 35 years. First
I had
my children and I was busy bringing them up and taking them to school. I never went to English
classes because I had young children and my husband was working, so I had responsibilities at
home looking after the children. When the children were older I had a home tutor to teach me
English but I didnt learn anything so I stopped her coming. Now I can speak English and I know
my
telephone number.
Ive changed a lot since I started coming to the Tassibee Group. Ive changed the way I think
about
things; I used to feel under a lot of pressure but thats gone now because I think differently.
I used to
feel pressured by the family; my husband is mentally ill and I have to take care of him day and night.
When hes not well, my husband gets very angry and tells me that Im no good and I dont
do
anything right. He accuses me of trying to control him and hiding things from him but I have to do
this for his own safety. Once hes better he apologises for what he has done but he cant
really
remember.
I worry a lot about my husband and what would happen to him if I wasnt there. Coming to the
Tassibee Group on Fridays is a way of doing something for myself and releasing my stress. At the
Tassibee Group everyone is laughing and joking and when I go back home I feel refreshed and
happy.
Coming on the Tassibee training courses has given me confidence. Before I used to have to take
someone with me to interpret when I went for hospital appointments because I was to embarrassed
to speak English. I knew my English wasnt very good and I felt ashamed. Now I know that I can
communicate in
English and as long as people can understand me, it doesnt matter if my English isnt perfect.
Now
at the hospital the staff say to me You didnt used to speak English but now youre
really good.
Illness is in Allahs hands but what matters is to be able to explain to other people what the
problem
is. I feel proud and happy that I can express my feelings for myself.
At the hospital they have an interpreter but I dont use her; I dont need her
now. Its embarrassing when you have to talk through another person, even if its your own
children.
You cant say everything you want to you feel too embarrassed. Now when I go to my doctors
surgery I can go on my own; I dont have to make any arrangements with anyone else.
Through the Tassibee Group Ive come this far but Im hoping to go further. Now I go to the
Urdu
class, Conversational English and the New Opportunities for Women course.
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The story of the Tassibee Group Sardars
story
Ive been coming to the Tassibee Group for nearly four years. Id lived in England for two
years before
that. Until I went to the Tassibee Group Id hardly been out for two years and I didnt feel
happy in
Rotherham. I missed the environment in Pakistan, where I used to sit with the women and teach
them the Quran. In Pakistan there were always people coming in and out of our house to visit us. In
Rotherham it was different; hardly anyone came to the house and I never went out. I didnt even
know
my house number because I didnt need to I never went anywhere except when my son would
take me out for some fresh air after he came in from work. I felt really depressed, my health was
deteriorating, and I wanted to go back home to Pakistan.
Then one day I was invited to an open day for Asian women about reducing the amount of crime in
the area where I live. I met Khalida there who told me about the Tassibee Group and asked me if I
would like to come. When I got home, I realised that I had forgotten the name of the clinic where it
is
held, but my son found out for me and he took me to my first meeting.
There were only a few women there and I felt they werent very confident in what they were doing,
so
I started to read the prayers. At the end everyone was really impressed with me and asked me to
come every week. I loved coming to the Tassibee Group; to read the prayers and be involved in an
Islamic session was something that I always wanted to do. It gave me meaning again in my life and
gradually, I got to know more women and started to go out to other peoples houses and then to
other sessions and meetings. Now I needed to know my house number and my address and phone
number.
I started to feel comfortable and confident meeting people, like I used to feel in Pakistan, and I didnt
feel like an outsider any more. Now, through the Tassibee Group I am well known in the community
and people have begun to invite me to their house to read the Quran on special occasions. Now I go
out every day and I can go to the Tassibee office whenever I want. I feel at home there.
Through the Tassibee training courses I feel very confident and comfortable talking to English people,
like the English people on the steering group. In the past I was very ill and Ive been in hospital
quite
a lot. I used to feel very isolated and never talked to anyone. Now I talk to the nurses and the other
patients and I dont feel so bored because I can communicate.
Now I have responsibilities in my life so Im more organised. I teach Quranic Arabic four times
a
week and I am responsible for the Tassibee office. I also have steering group meetings to attend. All
these things are important to me and I organise my life around them. Now in the steering group
meetings I can give my views and raise the issues I want to talk about. To start with I didnt
know
what to say, but now I do.
Now I feel fit in myself, both mentally and physically. I feel happy that Ive achieved something
in my
life and that Im doing the things that Ive wanted to do. Before I was tired and ill because
I was bored
and depressed. Now I can share my knowledge and skills with the other women; I get a lot of
respect and the love and care of everyone keeps my going. I feel good because Im a teacher.
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The story of the Tassibee Group - comments
from the steering group
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How did you feel when you first got involved with the Tassibee Group?
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"As a white woman I was scared of going into a group of Asian women where no-one spoke English
maybe, to start with, I put off doing it"
"1 realised that I wasnt used to being in a minority situation. Being an outsider and not
knowing
what to do or what the women were talking about was a very strange experience. I worried that I
would look stupid or say the wrong thing or offend someone"
"Being in a group where religion was so central was also strange. I had a vague awareness that
for
many women in the group, Islam was much more central to their lives than religion was to any white
person that I knew but I had no idea of the implications of this for the women"
"I was overwhelmed by the womens stories about what the group meant to them and the buzz
that
happened during sessions"
"The womens enjoyment at being together challenged my stereotype (that I didnt know
that I had)
that Asian women prefer to stay at home"
"I was fascinated by the age range of women in the group."
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What made you persevere with working with the Tassibee Group?
"I realised that the group needed resources to develop."
"We had access to knowledge and services that Khalida didnt. As professionals we brought
our
networks with us."
"I persevered because I realised that Khalida needed and wanted links with outside organisations
to
move the group on and develop it."
"We get a lot of respect from the women in the group and seeing their achievements motivates me
to
stay involved."
"I was humbled by Sardars willingness and eagerness to share her knowledge and skills with
the
other women."
"The womens commitment to getting a paid worker and their own space kept me involved."
"Tassibee Group members have a wider focus than a lot of other groups I work with. Because they
want the group to move on it makes them easier to work with than groups who dont really want
anything to change."
"The women have always responded positively to us as professionals. Group members on the
steering group have worked so hard to understand professional structures and processes. Because
they are prepared to put so much time and effort into it, this motivates me to keep working with the
group. I really care about the Tassibee Group and I really want it to succeed."
"Watching how the women change and develop is very motivating. When we first suggested on a
training course that women could volunteer to take some responsibility for helping to run the group,
they were very sceptical. Now if Khalida isnt there, they run the group themselves."
"Working with the Tassibee Group has taught me that I can work with people
whose first language is not English - it can be done."
"I have been able to move on professionally, in my understanding of the issues, because of my
relationship with the Tassibee Group. I now realise that not speaking the same language is not the
insurmountable problem that I thought it was."
"It has helped me to realise just what a long, slow process is needed to get a group like Tassibee
to
the point of even applying for funding. The group was volunteer-led for over 4 years and if it hadnt
been for Khalidas commitment and determination, the group wouldnt have got anywhere."
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Lessons for the future
"The steering group has fought for the Tassibee Group and developed it. Everyone has worked
together to get office and meeting space and a paid development worker. Having a base with our own
facilities is very important for the group. We work hard in the steering group it is not a social
group!"
"We need to always be aware of the constant temptation just to work through Khalida, rather than
go
directly to the women themselves. By doing this we put her in the position of community leader
which is harmful to her and the group."
"The Tassibee Group exists for the benefit of its members, not so that organisations can use it
to
tick boxes. The group should decide for itself when and how it wants to work with other organisations
and not jump every time it is asked to do something."
"We still need to work on how we run steering group meetings. The interpreting balance isnt
right -
there is too much talking in English. We need to be more focused in the meetings and not try to do
so many things at once. We need to help Tassibee Group members take turn in chairing the
meetings, with proper support to start with."
"We should work all the time on building up the womens self-esteem; so many of them feel
that
they are not important."
"We should work all the time on building up womens confidence so that they feel able to access
education and training provision anywhere they want."
"We will need to work with the group again on whether we should apply for lottery funding (where
we
have a good chance of success). It is wrong that a major source of charitable funding is derived from
gambling, which is not allowed in Islam. It puts groups like Tassibee under a lot of pressure to betray
its beliefs and principles just to get the funding to survive."
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