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ULTIMA THULE MAIL-ORDER INFO revised 30/4/2012

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FAQ #1

 

READ ME FIRST...

To order from Ultima Thule there are various methods. Best for us and you is to register (see "First order").
You can also use PayPal (5% fee), use available Pay Now buttons or Donate Button on this site, or request a PayPal invoice.
Many products are also available via: Amazon Marketplace, Discogs Marketplace, and occasional Ebay auctions.

First order...
We do not have an online secure server for orders (all systems I've checked-out are either too expensive or inflexible).
Instead we use a simple customer registration system...
Step 1: get a registration form zipped mhtml, jpg printable to see what info we need
Step 2: print-off the form & fill it in, or just write us a letter with all the relevant info!
Step 3:
send it to us, by mail/post is best, or phone/email the info for recorded/registered/insured post delivery

For security reasons, we generally ask that initial orders are preceded by a completed registration form, which should be hand-written and signed.
As the bank insists we have proof of customer origin, we prefer to receive registration forms by mail, as this constitutes proof of where the customer is.
The other option is to add recorded or registration fees for proof of and/or guaranteed delivery. That way you can order by phone or email!
If you email a form to us, either paste it in or add it as an attachment. It is best to use 96dpi greyscale jpg, compressed to 60k if you know how!
Of course these precautions protect both you and us, and are common sense really! Make sure you include a normal phone number, and the security code [the final block of 3 numbers on the back of credit cards]. If you don't like sending all such info, then tell us key extras like the expiry date and security code by email or phone [a card cannot be used without these]. You can split all such info over 2 or 3 emails if you wish.

Further orders...
order by phone, regular mail or email, and benefit from our usually speedy same day despatch!
Order forms: Available with printed catalogues, or by request with an order. Or download an order form and print it off yourself.
Please write clearly and/or in capitals where you can. Use a highlighter or red ink for important notes.
Email orders: Be sure to be clear as to who you are! i.e. list your full name at least. The more clear info, the faster the order process!
This avoids bogus orders or items going to the wrong person. We do have different customers with the same names!
Phone orders: When ordering or reserving by phone, ask for Alan, tell me your full name and that you a registered customer.
I will access your file on our off-line system.

 

PAYPAL OPTION...

As a number of people have requested it, and for ease of payment for those wanting to buy things like "The Crack In The Cosmic Egg" CD-Rom without needing to register, I decided to set up a personal PayPal account. Setting up a personal account like this avoids all the extra charges associated with business banking, but does have disadvantages (see notes below).

Where you see the above PayPal logo, that's at most places in the Ultima Thule releases and Audion Publications areas, you will now also find convenient PayPal "Buy Now" buttons added to this site. I decided on the individual item option as usually whenever I buy anything on impulse on the web it's a one-off item. It's also simpler! The prices given include P&P and PayPal fees. The drop-down boxes attached above the "Buy Now" give the different postage options that are available and prices in GBP (GB £ sterling). This is the quickest most convenient way for you to order. If you wish to order more than two items you may save money on P&P, and in that case email me for a quote or calculate as instructed below.

UK customers can just click the buy now for default UK price including P&P

non UK customers should...
1. Click on the drop-down box.
2. select appropriate postage option...

For all other types of order, use the SEND PAYMENT option at PayPal to my personal (Alan Freeman) PayPal account: utle2uk@btconnect.com.
When you do this, it's best to email me at: utle2uk@btconnect.com to let me know, giving your address info, special instructions, etc.
And/or include all such info along with the PayPal payment instruction.

There's also: easy pay any amount via PayPal donate button

5% Surcharge: As a general rule add 5% to a purchase total. There are various charges on PayPal transactions, depending on the type of funding, currency conversion, etc., plus a fee of 20p per transaction. As there's no way of knowing what charges will be beforehand, add 5% to the order total, which usually covers it. For payments under £10 it's often best to add 10%. If you know how to do a "personal payment" it is possible to avoid such fees. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Such payments have no guarantees however! If in doubt contact me and ask for a quote.
Fund clearance: please be patient! As I'm using my personal account as a proxy for Ultima Thule, I need to clear funds to pay UT so that your order can be processed. Why do I do this? It avoids extra bank charges. No other reason! The drawback is this causes delays of a few days. But usually such transfers take just 3 work days. Don't want to wait?: Those in a hurry should register with UT (see above) and pay by credit or debit card!
Important: Never send me a PayPal payment for something I may not be able to supply! I do not want to get involved with returning/refunding funds, so only use PayPal to order things that we definitely have in stock, i.e. items you have reserved, Ultima Thule releases and Audion Magazine.
Problems? Goods not arrived? Queries! You know we are a reputable, long-established business, so please don't start a dispute via PayPal. Such action not only causes inconvenience, but also further problems that can affect transactions with other customers. Remember, delays can be caused by various factors, some beyond our control. Always contact us directly before you do anything else!
Want faster service? Then register with Ultima Thule and take advantage of our super-speedy usually same day despatch service!

 

POSTAL RATES...                                                                     new May 2012

P&P unit rates...
1 unit = MC (cassettes), 3"CD (only 1 unit on little Metamkine CD's), other small items, (2nd & subsequent 12cm CD singles)
2 units = CD (compact discs), 2xMC sets, 7" records, magazines, (1st 12cm CD single)
3 units
= VHS (video cassettes), DVD, 2xCD sets, 10" records
6 units = first LP, 4 units = each subsequent LP (i.e. double LP's = 10 units!)

 

UK LETTER POST

 

WORLD LETTER POST

units

UK

Special

units

Europe

World

1 MC

£1.00

£7.50

1 MC

£2.50

£3.50

2 CD

£1.60

£7.50

2 CD

£4.00

£5.00

3 2CD set

£2.20

£7.50

3 2CD set

£4.50

£6.00

4 LVE set

£2.80

£7.50

4 LVE set

£5.00

£7.00

5

£3.40

£7.50

5

£5.50

£8.00

6 1st LP

£4.00

£7.50

6 1st LP

£6.00

£9.00

7

£4.50

£7.50

7

£6.50

£10.00

8

£5.00

£7.50

8

£7.00

£11.00

9

£5.50

£8.50

9

£7.50

£12.00

10 2LP

£6.00

£8.50

10 2LP

£8.00

£13.00

11

£6.30

£8.50

11

£8.50

£14.00

12

£6.60

£8.50

12

£9.00

£15.00

13

£6.90

£8.50

13

£9.40

£15.90

14

£7.20

£11.00

14

£9.80

£16.80

15

£7.40

£11.00

15

£10.20

£17.70

16

£7.60

£11.00

16

£10.60

£18.60

17

£7.80

£11.00

17

£11.00

£19.50

18

£8.00

£11.00

18

£11.40

£20.40

19

£8.20

£11.00

19

£11.80

£21.30

20

£8.40

£11.00

20

£12.20

£22.20

21

£8.60

£11.00

21

£12.60

£23.10

22

£8.80

£11.00

22

£13.00

£23.80

23

£9.00

£11.00

23

£13.40

£24.50

24

£9.20

£11.00

24

£13.80

£25.20

25

£9.40

£11.00

25

£14.20

£25.90

26

£9.60

£11.00

26

£14.60

£26.60

27

£9.80

£11.00

27

£14.80

£27.30

28

£10.00

£11.00

28

£15.00

£28.00

29+

enquire and get a quote!

World surface: same price as Europe.

 

EUROPE PARCEL POST

units

UK

EU 1

EU2

other

1-5

£6.50

£36.00

£39.00

£44.00

6-12

£6.50

£38.00

£41.00

£47.00

13-19

£6.50

£40.00

£43.00

£49.00

20-28

£6.50

£42.00

£45.00

£51.00

29-35

£6.50

£44.00

£47.00

£53.00

36+

enquire and get a quote!

UK: no compensation or insurance available (cover is same as letters).
Europe: EU 1 = Belgium, Denmark, France, Germany, Holland.
Europe: EU 2 = Eire, Greece, Italy, Portugal, Spain.
Europe: other = Austria, former East Europe, Norway, Sweden, etc.

 

WORLD PARCEL POST

units

zone 10

zone 11

zone 12

1-5

£46.00

£53.00

£58.00

6-12

£50.00

£59.00

£65.00

13-19

£54.00

£63.00

£72.00

20-28

£58.00

£67.00

£79.00

29-35

£62.00

£71.00

£82.00

36+

enquire and get a quote!

Zone 10: Canada, USA.
Zone 11: Australia, New Zealand, Far East (China, Japan, South Korea, etc.).
Zone 12: Africa, South America, Middle East, etc.

Special services...
UK Recorded delivery: add £1.00 to the P&P cost.
UK Special delivery (insured letter): see special rate above
Non-UK recorded: add £5.15 to P&P (cover £40 only), registered: add £7.75 to P&P.
note: insurance levels vary, and cover is not available to all countries.

note: all such prices are a guide and may not always be correct to all places, and when convenient large orders will be costed on actual weight!

 

OBSERVATIONS & INFORMATION...

Alternatives...
As lots of the stuff we have at Ultima Thule is rare and/or hard to get, and that many titles are second-hand, one-off's, deleted items or very limited, we cannot always guarantee that something listed on the Ultima Thule web site is available. It is not always possible or practical to keep everything on the UT site up-to-date, although I do try! So we recommend you list alternatives if ordering by post especially.

Invoices & reserving...
You can request a pro-forma invoice, bill or quote by phone, post or email. That is if you wish to reserve goods before sending/making a payment.
As a rule we generally only reserve goods for one week in the UK, but will usually allow longer for payments from abroad. So please be prompt with your payment, or keep us informed of any delays, else the goods will be returned to stock. Please do not reserve goods and then change your mind, as this can cause inconvenience to us and other customers.
All UK (and many export) sales are put through the office till (cash register). If you require a full invoice for your personal accounts, then request one. Businesses and export orders (unless you request us not to) will receive a full official invoice with the goods.

Payment Methods...
£ cheques: UK Bank Cheques, Eurocheques, Drafts, Money orders. A tip: blank, UK bank cheques noted "not to exceed £..." avoids the need for credit notes.
£ Postal Orders: Do not cross them! Banks charge a high clearance fee. For added security, make postal orders payable to "Steven Freeman".
Electronic funding: Moneygram, Western Union, etc. payable to "Steven Freeman".
Credit Cards: Almost any Visa, Eurocard, MasterCard. Minimum order £5.00.
Important: Only usable after completion of our Customer Registration Form.
Debit Cards: Visa Delta, Visa Debit, Connect, Switch. Minimum order £10.00.
Important: Only usable after completion of our Customer Registration Form.
Bank transfer: Request details if you wish to transfer to our account.
UK currency: Cash sent by mail is risky. Ultima Thule will not be liable for any losses.
Foreign currency: Add £6 or $10 for fluctuations/costs. Registration is essential.
Foreign cheques: These can cost £12+ in bank fees and weeks to clear.

Discounts...
All discounts are at our discretion. Discounts do not apply to P&P, services, magazines, books, or accessories.
UK special discounts...
payment by Credit Cards...
£250+ = free parcel post (or £5 off registered), £500+ & 2% discount.
payment by cash, cheques, debit cards, uncrossed postal-orders...
£150+ = free insured parcel post (or £5 off registered), £500+ & 4% discount,
£1000+ free parcel post and 8% discount.
Export special discounts...
payment by Credit Cards...
£250+ = 2% discount, £500+ = 4% discount.
payment by cash, £ cheques/etc...
£150+ = 2% discount, £500+ = 6% discount, £1000+ = 10%.

The small print...
P&P rates: We use a unit system to cope with mixed orders of CD's, records, cassettes, etc. What we charge is:- the postage cost (based on the average weights) + the packaging costs + a small handling charge. These rates are a guide, and are what is usually charged. P&P on large orders may be cheaper. If you are unsure about P&P costs, then enquire.
Packing: We take care in our packaging! In fact, Steve is regularly commended for it. Records are packed in cartons tightly (to avoid movement) with extra bubble-wrap inside. Smaller items (such as CD's and cassettes) are usually wrapped in corrugated card and mailed in neat Jiffy bags.
Recorded delivery: Advisable, if you want to make sure the goods are signed for. Essential for deliveries to blocks of flats or to businesses, to make sure the item gets to the right person!
Insurance: The Post Office only has limited liability for loss or damage, thus we recommend insurance on orders over £25! Items very rarely go missing, but it's often better to be safe than sorry. Parcel rate prices (excepting UK rates) include insurance in the P&P charge quoted.
Insurance cover: This varies for different countries. If no instructions are given, we'll use our discretion and charge accordingly. But note, as parcel insurance is limited per parcel (only up to £250 in some places), orders over any such threshold will usually be split into smaller packages.
Customs Declarations: We cannot fully insure, or claim compensation on lost or damaged items incorrectly valued. If you require low value declaration, the risk is yours! A tip: Packets under $50 (approx. £33 inc. P&P) are exempt from import duty in some countries, and you are less-likely to be clobbered. The disadvantage is that postal costs per item may be higher.
Part-exchange: If you wish to send us records or CD's in part-exchange against goods, please observe the following. 1) Before you send us any goods, always send us an email or letter with the list of goods you are wishing to dispose of. 2) We usually only take "ex" or better condition goods. Condition grades can be useful, else any offers are based on m/m product. 3) Await our offers before deciding to send anything. Note that all offers are subject to inspection and condition grading, and offers will be adjusted accordingly.
We use a standard rate of offering half of what we sell an item for in exchange value. That is, if we sell a record for 6GBP you get 3GBP credit to use against an order. This is the same deal for if you deliver the goods personally, or if you send them to us. The exchange value you get from us is treated as a cash sale amount as with any other payment method. We cannot give any other allowances. P&P is charged the same as with any other method of purchase. Customers abroad may find that postal costs your end may make such transactions impractical.
We do not normally pay cash for second-hand goods, but if we do then any such cash offer will be at best a third less than the exchange offer.
Low-risk buying scheme: As you can't try before you buy with mail-order, we offer a privilege mail-order scheme for the return unwanted/disliked items as part-exchange. The rates are, when returned within: 14 days: 75% on second-hand items & new CD's [not usually digipaks, as these rarely get returned in perfect condition]. 60% on new records & new DP/CC CD's, 50% on cassettes. After 14 days to 1 month: 50% second-hand items, 40% for new items (not cassettes). Conditions: Returns must be in condition as supplied. i.e. a new CD should be returned in new condition! If anything returned shows any sign of wear, play-marks, finger marks, etc., then it will be treated as second-hand part-exchange (as detailed above). This scheme is a privilege extra service for registered and/or regular customers only. It is not intended as a cheap library or rental service, so please respect our conditions, and only use the scheme for genuinely unwanted items. Not valid for: videos, publications, special-order, or sale/reduced items!

Problems...
Quality: Second-hand items are visually checked & tested for accurate grading. If you are finicky avoid items "vg+" or less. We try not to sell cassettes with defects, or CD's that won't play correctly!
Faulty Goods: Not all things that seem faulty are so. Check CD's on a different player! If you are sure an item is faulty, tell us. We will, however, usually need the return of faulty goods.
Postal Damage: We take great care packaging, but cannot guarantee against wear to covers, or damage to CD cases. If anything arrives damaged, keep all packaging and make a claim. Do not return goods until you have checked with us first! Generally, we recommend you add insurance.
Non-delivery: Check your local sorting office (or neighbour) first! Wait 1 week (1 month abroad). UK Parcelforce can take 10 days. If enquiring, tell us: the date of the order, what you ordered, etc.

 

CONDITION GRADING ROUGH GUIDE...

100%

75%

70%

65%

60%

55%

52.5%

50%

45%

42.5%

new

m/m

m/ex+

m/ex
ex+/m

m/vg
ex+/ex+

m/g+
ex+/ex
ex/m

m/g
ex+/vg+

m/f
ex+/vg
ex/ex+

ex+/g+
ex/ex
vg/m

ex+/g
ex/g+

£9.00

£6.50

£6.00

£5.50

£5.00

£5.00

£4.50

£4.50

£4.00

£3.50

£10.00

£7.50

£7.00

£6.50

£6.00

£5.50

£5.00

£5.00

£4.50

£4.00

£11.00

£8.00

£7.50

£7.00

£6.50

£6.00

£5.50

£5.50

£4.50

£4.50

£12.00

£9.00

£8.00

£7.50

£7.00

£6.50

£6.00

£6.00

£5.00

£4.50

£13.00

£9.50

£9.00

£8.50

£7.50

£7.00

£6.50

£6.50

£5.50

£5.00

Note: this is just a small section of the full grading table we use. Get the full word doc 2nd hand pricing guide.zip

 

ABBREVIATIONS...

 

Products...
CD - Compact Disc
CDM - Compact Disc Mini album
CDS - Compact Disc Single
CDR - Recorded Compact Disc
CD-Rom - CD +PC Rom data files
CD+ - CD +PC/Mac data files
DVD - Digital Video/Versatile Disc
EP - Extended Play 7"33 / 12"45
LP - Long Play record 12" / 10"
MLP - Mini LP 12" / 10"
MC - Music Cassette
VHS - Video VHS Cassette

Other infos...
# - Item new to this list!
BK - Book, booklet, etc.
BT - Bonus Track(s) included, i.e. 2xBT
CC - Card cover (often a mini LP style gatefold)
DP - DigiPak cover (plastic tray glued to card sleeve)
GF - Gate-Fold cover
IN - Insert/inner sleeve included
MAG - Magazine
PO - Poster included
PS - Picture Sleeve
RE - Reissue
RM - Remaster

 

SECOND-HAND GRADES...

Music product...
m - mint: a perfect, "as new" item, with no notable defects.
ex - excellent: minor flaws, slight wear, some defects.
vg - very good: a record that has obvious visible flaws, minor noise or clicks, etc. Good for all but quiet musics.
g - good: a record that plays okay, but will have notable crackle or distortion. Some old loud records will be okay.
f - fair: will play with considerable noise and crackle. Not really recommended at all!
b - bad condition, may not play properly!
+ - i.e. ex+ means better than ex, but not m.

Covers & Inserts...
m - mint: should be perfect, "as new", with no real defects.
ex - excellent: will show signs of being handled, and be obviously second-hand.
vg - very good: liable to have minor damage and wear, etc.
g - good: will be a bit tatty!
f - fair: may be just about holding together!
b - bad: hardly there at all!
co - cut-out: slotted/punched, usually US import deletion/promo.
nc - no cover.

 

GENERAL LAYOUT...

i.e. ASH RA TEMPEL - JOIN INN (Ohr: GF) LP vg/vg £25.00 - (Spalax) CD £13.00 - etc.

Meaning: ARTIST - TITLE (label: info) FORMAT record/cover £price - etc.

New items: No grade = new item! i.e. the Ohr LP above is second-hand, the CD is new.
Second-hand grades: "m/ex" = "mint record / excellent cover". i.e. "m/vg/ex" is condition of each item in a set, & "ex" cover. i.e. "g-m/m" is a variable grade, only good in parts, with an "m" cover.

 

UT MAIL-ORDER CATALOGUES...

The most convenient and economic way to keep in touch with stocks at UT is via our catalogue web pages. These are updated every two months as a snapshot of our stocks at the time. If you would like to be notified each time a new list is posted then email utle1uk@btconnect.com asking Steve to add you to his email customer list.
A printed version is also available. Generally around 16-32 printed A4 pages, and in a rather cramped dense print, it's a handy portable guide.
All things considered it costs around 50p to produce. But, we send it out free to all regular customers!
If you'd like a copy of the list, we only require a nominal charge. You can subscribe, per 4 lists by mail, at the following rates:
UK: £3.00, Europe: £8.00, Elsewhere: £10.00, or to get a sample one-off: send us a 50p stamp in the UK, Paypal add 10%.

lists by post

 

UT News emails:...
When the need arises we occasionally do bulk emails of news on gigs, new releases & special offers.
To be added to our news by email list, email: utle2uk@btconnect.com with subject "UT news - add me"
To be removed, email: utle2uk@btconnect.com with subject "UT news - remove me"

 

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